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anything.
Straight answers. No compliance-team waffle, no 40-page rulebook. If your feelings bruise easily, the other prop firms are that way.
01
The money
Is it actually 100%? What's the catch?+
No catch. Funded accounts are demo accounts. Every prop firm on earth runs on sim money, and the 80/20 split they sell you is a number they made up to pay you less. We make our money on challenge and activation fees, up front, out in the open. What you make, you keep. All of it.
So how the hell do you make money?+
Challenge fees and activation fees. That's the whole business. We'd rather charge you a fair price once than skim your payouts forever like a landlord.
Why are your challenges so cheap? Smells like a scam.+
Because charging $150 for a demo account is the actual scam. Ours run $7 to $29. If you fail, you lose the price of a takeaway, not your rent.
Do you offer discount codes?+
No, you cheap f*ck. Our challenges start at $7. That's less than your Starbucks order, and you're over here hunting coupons like it's Black Friday. Other firms slap "90% OFF" on a $150 eval every weekend because their real price is a joke. Ours is the real price, every day. Save the coupon energy for your trading.
What's the activation fee and why do I pay it?+
One-time fee to switch on your funded account, from $29 on a 5K to $199 on a 150K. You only pay it after you pass. Fail and you never see it. No monthly subscription bleeding you dry while you "work on your psychology".
Wait, what's live capital?+
Real money. Earn the invite on a funded account and you can trade our actual capital at 90/10, with no payout caps. Yes, we take 10% there, because it's our money on the line. Demo money? Zero cut. It's optional, and the full breakdown is on /live.
How often do I get paid?+
Depends on your tier. BLITZ pays daily once you've built a 6% buffer. HAVOC pays weekly after 5 days of $100+ profit. TITAN pays monthly with no strings at all. Pick the one that matches how impatient you are.
Are there payout caps?+
Yes, every firm has them, ours are just bigger and simpler. Max per payout on a 50K: BLITZ $8,000, HAVOC $2,500, TITAN $5,000. Make more than the cap? It carries over to your next payout, nothing gets confiscated. No "50% of profits" rule either: take whatever you want up to the cap. Full table on the prices section.
Can I really withdraw everything I've made?+
Up to the cap, yes. All of it. We're not your mum. But if you pull every last dollar and leave yourself $3 of room above the floor, one red candle closes the account, and that's on you. Leave yourself some breathing room, genius.
What's the minimum payout?+
BLITZ: $250. HAVOC: $250. TITAN: no minimum. TITAN traders, take $40 if you want, we'll still send it.
When do I move to live capital?+
When an account has paid you 3x its profit target ($9,000 on a 50K), you get an invite. Optional. Say yes for real capital, no caps, 90/10. Say no and keep trading sim until it's paid 5x ($15,000 on a 50K), then it resets to a fresh funded account for the activation fee, no new challenge. Details on /live.
What do I need for a HAVOC weekly payout?+
Five days closing at least $100 green. Same on every account size. Hit it, request it, get paid. If you can't find five $100 days in a week, the problem isn't our rules.
And TITAN? What's the catch on monthly?+
There isn't one. No buffer, no minimum trading days, no minimum payout. Make whatever the hell you want and request it after 30 days. $40 or $40,000, it's yours.
What's this BLITZ buffer?+
BLITZ pays you every day, so before the tap opens you build a 6% protection buffer on your funded account. On a 50K that's $3,000. The buffer stays in the account as your cushion, everything above it is yours to pull daily. Want daily cash with zero cushion? That's how accounts die in a week. Build the buffer, then go eat.
Are these prices staying like this?+
These are waitlist prices. Get on the list and tell us what you want to run on day 1. Don't come crying later that you missed it.
02
The rules (all three of them)
Is there a consistency rule?+
No. Not on the challenge, not on funded. You nuked the target in one day? Congratulations, that's called trading well, not a violation.
What do I actually need to do to pass?+
Hit the profit target ($3,000 on a 50K), don't break your drawdown ($2,750 on a 50K), and trade at least 3 days. That's it. If you need a 40-page PDF to understand a prop firm's rules, the rules are the product.
Wait, 20 x 150K is $3M. Why's the funded cap $1.5M?+
Because 20 accounts copying the same trade isn't 20 traders, it's one trader with a megaphone. Run all 20 evals you want, evals don't count. Funded is where we pay out real money, so you can hold up to $1.5M of it at once, like 10 x 150K or 15 x 100K. Lose one, fail one or close one and the next passed account slides straight in. Still more funded buying power than most firms will ever hand you.
Why the 3-day minimum?+
Because one lucky coin flip on CPI isn't a track record. 3 days on the eval. Zero minimum once you're funded.
How many accounts can I run?+
Up to 20, any mix of tiers and sizes. Run 20 evals if you like. Once they pass, you can hold up to $1.5M of funded accounts at once (say 10 x 150K). Go build your army.
03
Drawdown
How does your drawdown work?+
End-of-day trailing: $2,750 on a 50K, more room than the big firms give you. It's checked at the close, never intraday, so one stupid wick doesn't end you. And it trails both ways: green day, the floor moves up; red day, it comes back down with you, all the way to your starting floor (starting balance minus your drawdown). Close one drawdown in profit ($52,750 on a 50K) and that floor locks at your starting balance for good.
Wait, it comes back DOWN? Every other firm locks it up.+
Yeah, and that's how they blow you up. Have a great week, give a bit back, and suddenly you're one trade from dead. We don't punish you for having a normal red day. Losing is part of trading. Getting robbed for it shouldn't be. The only line it won't cross is your starting floor, and once you're up a full drawdown that floor locks at breakeven.
Is there a daily drawdown?+
F*ck no. We ain't here to babysit you. No daily loss limit, no daily drawdown, nobody slapping your wrist at 2pm because you had a rough open. Your EOD trailing drawdown is the only line. Go trade the way you want, with the freedom you've always dreamed about.
Does taking a payout screw my drawdown?+
No. 25K funded, $1,500 drawdown, you make $500 and pull it out: you've still got $1,000 of room. No floor lock, no reset, no punishment. Other firms make you pay for being consistent, which is the single biggest bullshit rule in this industry. You made it, take it.
So can I blow an account?+
Obviously. Close below your floor and it's gone, whether that's one monster red day or a slow bleed down to your starting floor. We're generous, not stupid.
Is there a max position size?+
Yes, scaled to the account: 5K 1 mini, 10K 2 minis, 25K 3 minis, 50K 5 minis, 100K 10 minis, 150K 15 minis. Micros count 10 to a mini. Size up by passing a bigger account, not by YOLOing a small one.
04
Trading
What do I trade?+
Futures. Real contracts, real market data, sim execution. If you came here for forex spreads and crypto leverage, wrong building.
What platforms can I trade on?+
Tradovate, or Tradesea running on Rithmic. Pick your poison, bring your setup, and get to work.
Do you allow news trading?+
Yes. But don't cry or bitch when slippage or an unfilled order takes you out. High risk, high reward. No risk, no Rari.
Is hedging allowed?+
F*ck no. Are you that bad a trader that you have to second-guess your own strategy? Long on one account, short on another isn't trading, it's gambling on a refund. If you want to hedge, open a live account on Tradovate and hedge all you want. Here, you pick a direction and own it.
Are bots allowed?+
Of course. Build your own bot, code your own algo, let it trade while you sleep. Just don't let us catch you running the same bot as everyone else. That $49 "guaranteed funded" bot from some Discord with 4,000 members isn't your edge, it's 4,000 identical accounts all buying the same tick, and we're not running a charity for a copy-paste army. Your bot, your code, your edge: welcome. Community bots: banned, and so are the accounts running them. We need to make money here too.
Can I copy trade across my own accounts?+
Yes. Your strategy, your accounts, your business. Pass someone else's account for them or exploit a sim glitch and you're out, no refund, no tears.
Can I get someone else to pass my challenge for me?+
No. Account passers get banned and every account they touched goes with them. Earn it yourself, that's the whole point.
05
Everything else
I failed. Now what?+
Buy another one for $7 to $29, review what you did, and stop revenge trading. We're not going to send you a motivational email about it.
Who is this NOT for?+
Gamblers looking for a lottery ticket, people who need 14 rules to feel safe, and anyone who thinks the market owes them money. Everyone else, welcome.
Do you have an affiliate program?+
Yes, and it's stupidly good. Up to 50% commission on challenges and activations, commission on live capital payouts, and the top dogs earn a cash profit share of the whole company's net profit. Check the affiliates page.
When do you launch?+
Soon. The waitlist gets in first. Drop your email, plan your day 1 accounts, and we'll hit you up the day doors open.